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04 November 2013 @ 10:35 am
[MOD] Regarding scammers  
Hi all,

I haven't posted anything by way of mod announcements here in a long while, but I wanted to give you guys a heads up regarding a scammer and also remind you of the process of reporting scammers.

First off, a big warning to Singaporean fans in particular who are also part of sg_jesales: While I don't have 100% concrete proof, I have received reports from a couple of members that christinateo is a scammer and the same person behind the accounts valeriechew (now deleted) and rinalow. Her original account, valeriechew, has a history of scamming with other items such as selling phones, which you can find reports of by looking up her email "keira_chew2@hotmail.com". An Arashi fan on LJ has also made a post regarding her recent experience with valeriechew here.

christinateo is an account created just today because I have banned her previous two accounts here on je_sales. You can see that the account is brand new with a very similar description to the one in rinalow, and all three accounts do not provide original photos-- all the images they use are taken directly from Yahoo! Auctions Japan (in fact, she even reuses some of the same pics between accounts). Some of the photos she uses are of the wrong items (for example, claiming the BW DVD she's selling is LE when she's using an RE image, selling an Arafes 2013 bag that is actually fanmade and not official, claiming items such as "Arashi around asia 2 dome eco bag" and "Arashi arafes 2013 long wallet" exist when they do not and are most likely fanmade merchandise as well). She will also claim to own items she did not put up photos of in an attempt to lure more potential buyers in.

While I haven't had direct experiences with her, I really advise caution in dealing with this user. Make sure she really does have the goods before you send her your money: you can try asking for actual pictures of the goods with her username written on a piece of paper next to it, or asking for pictures of her holding the actual goods. It is not unreasonable for you as the buyer to request simple things like this, and most sellers would be more than willing to prove they're genuine!

With that over with, I also wanted to bring up our list of Blacklisted/Questionable Sellers and encourage you all to post to the community with your experiences if you have been scammed or suspect you are being scammed. Commenting to that masterpost or PMing me about it means your story will reach very very few people, whereas posting directly here in the comm may prompt others to come out and share similar experiences with the same seller; on the other hand, if they are a legitimate seller they would likely come out and explain themselves, so that also provides a platform to clear up any misunderstandings.

In general, I do not make posts on behalf of others if a scam has occurred-- I prefer it to be explained in your own words, and that way you will also be able to keep track of the comments yourself. I made an exception for christinateo because while I banned her quite soon after she posted here, she is still relentlessly advertising elsewhere and has already scammed at least one person from a different community under another name. She is also evolving her tactics as she goes along and is now posing as a fan by joining numerous communities, which is why it is even more important to expose her while it's still early.

Sorry for the long post, and thank you for reading! We haven't had much by way of scammers here in a long while, and I really hope we can stay this way. :)

EDIT 2013/11/07: She is now operating under a new account, suzanne_teo.
 
 
 
eskarina77: 2011 - Masaeskarina77 on November 4th, 2013 07:43 pm (UTC)
Thank you for this post. And for reminding us to pay attention ^^
nadzsanz: pic#110175319nadzsanz on November 4th, 2013 11:16 pm (UTC)
isnt it just because of money?

thank yo for your advice

selena244: ninohideselena244 on November 7th, 2013 05:59 am (UTC)
I think this lady has come up with another new account again

http://suzanne-teo.livejournal.com/

she is quite persistent isn't she?

she's now "living in Japan" but promoting sales in sg_jesales

http://sg-jesales.livejournal.com/1047958.html
Amy: Hockey | NJ Devilsacidae on November 7th, 2013 06:10 am (UTC)
Unfortunately yes, that definitely looks like her. She told one potential buyer under the rinalow account that she was in Japan until late November, but arranged for a local meet-up in Singapore with another person for this week (then pushed back to next week). Her lies change with each person she talks to.

EDIT: Sorry for editing again-- I just noticed that she's still using images from Yahoo Japan Auctions, but she's learned from this and uploaded them to LJ before posting them. Like I said, she's evolving her tactics and learning from her mistakes each time. I really hope people will not fall for this!

Edited at 2013-11-07 06:15 am (UTC)
selena244: ninohideselena244 on November 7th, 2013 07:45 am (UTC)
Yes and I see people inquiring for the goods she "sell" on her rinalow account but I have no idea if someone has already transferred her money.

The mod for sg_jesales seems like have been on hiatus for quite some time and I'm not sure if it's appropriate for non-mod to make scammers warning post.
Amy: Hockey | NJ Devilsacidae on November 7th, 2013 07:57 am (UTC)
I PMed all of the people who have left visible comments on her post, actually! Out of them all, only one had paid and was waiting on a tracking number that rinalow had promised. The others either already canceled their transactions because they were warned by other people before I contacted them or said they were going to after I notified them about her. She actually PMed me under her rinalow account and claimed she was a legitimate seller who had made many successful transactions and I am causing her to lose a lot of money because she apparently sent items to somebody who now refuses to pay her after seeing this mod post I made, which prompted me to start PMing others in the first place. To my knowledge, though, she has not actually sent a single item to anybody thus far and many of the transactions are being cancelled or already have been cancelled, which negates her claims that she made many successful sales.

And funnily enough, suzanne_teo claims to be a new person but her comments here and here sound just like rinalow in her PM to me. I don't even want to touch on her attempts to use thycharmant's name in her lies when the poor girl was clearly the victim in this whole thing.

EDIT: I forgot to add this, but I think anyone can and should make such posts in the community-- I highly encourage it here in je_sales as well. The only reason I'm not posting there is because I'm not a member of the community nor am I from Singapore so it would be odd if I marched right in and made a post myself.

Edited at 2013-11-07 08:04 am (UTC)
selena244: ninohideselena244 on November 7th, 2013 08:46 am (UTC)
Woo she sounds so paranoid there, and she is brainless enough to admit rinalow is her friend?
And what a big joke, who sells item by mailing out the items first before receiving payment?

Obviously the first post of thycharmant states that she has been scammed and she is using that as an evidence to prove she is not a scammer? Wow what a nice idea.

Ok maybe I will try to post about it in sg_jesales when I get home.[Unknown LJ tag] and I think she will get paranoid and defend herself HAHA.
thycharmant: pic#122033426thycharmant on November 7th, 2013 08:52 am (UTC)
Quite funny how she actually knows my LJ user when I've never PM-ed both users (rinalow and suzanne_teo)
Its upsetting to see her continue with her scams :( to make matters worse, the name "thycharmant" which I created is used in all my games ever since 3 years ago... She's ruining it :(

Also, her writing style is exactly the same. She just gave herself away.

Edited at 2013-11-07 08:54 am (UTC)
selena244: ninohideselena244 on November 7th, 2013 09:01 am (UTC)
Thanks for your reply.

I think you have given a very good proof that they are all of the same person.

I'm trying to create a post in sg_jesales to warn others of her.
selena244: ninohideselena244 on November 7th, 2013 09:14 am (UTC)
Hi I'm sorry to bring up this sad issue, but do you mind me using your LJ name and LJ post in sg_jesales for my post about this scammer?
thycharmant: pic#122033426thycharmant on November 7th, 2013 09:20 am (UTC)
I do not mind. The whole matter isn't at all morbid. I take this as a lesson and learn from this mistake I made which ended up with me being scammed. As long as it can prevent people from being scammed by her...

Edited at 2013-11-07 11:04 am (UTC)
thycharmant: pic#122033426thycharmant on November 7th, 2013 09:55 am (UTC)
Tracking for mailing the item? Rinalow emailed my best friend an image of a DHL courier slip saying that it will be what my friend would receive after she made payment(payment before mailing item out) but there were obvious correction tape marks on it, it looks like it has been reused.
selena244: ninohideselena244 on November 8th, 2013 06:03 am (UTC)
She is now targeting the Philippines LJ community:

http://arashi-ph.livejournal.com/

http://pinoy-je.livejournal.com/

I've PM-ed the respective owner of the communities I hope they will ban her soon.
「DUNADAN」: 「IN THE END」xanderave on November 8th, 2013 11:48 am (UTC)
Wah! So exciting.
anrellia: pic#122058454anrellia on November 9th, 2013 03:32 pm (UTC)
thanks for informing....
I hate people that make use of this to scam fans like me.
cheeze2888: pic#109985332cheeze2888 on November 16th, 2013 02:21 pm (UTC)
thanks so much for letting us know about this ^..^
pianoisloved: Collage. :Dpianoisloved on November 16th, 2013 02:21 pm (UTC)
Just saw suzanne_teo's LJ

I wonder why the picture of the LOVE ribbon set looks quite the same as the so-called LOVE "letter set". XD

#justsaying #fail

XDD
tsuchi8562: pic#119711250tsuchi8562 on November 20th, 2013 10:16 pm (UTC)
Meet one screwed by rinalow ... I feel stupid and just claimed to get my moneys back and I do hope I will get them back. Why didn't I think it's too good to be true? Well, all I can blame for this is overexcitement... Unfortunately I sent her the money before this post was created and I was quite busy with work anyway... I am so angry at myself that I wanna cry. I can't do anything more than I have already done - complain on paypal and hope I will get my money back. T____T
thycharmant: pic#122033426thycharmant on February 10th, 2014 05:21 am (UTC)
if you transferred the money via paypal, you should be able to get it back!
Just try to be more careful next time... Not all the sellers are shady ones
If you're looking for items, maybe try JapanJE? The owner, agnes, is really nice and friendly! She has helped me get quite alot of items (Arashi Love con goods, shop photos etc)